Trump in power

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Re: Trump in power

帖子ybgx » 12/12/16 13:51

If they felt that way, they won't behave that way. Go figure.

Omega 写了:
Twingo 写了:反土共不也是GGL的一贯么,中国现在问题这么多,trump一搅估计至少会有很大变化,好坏不知,不过估计变坏的概率大一些,现在国内的环境生活经济这些都到了转折的地方,靠低人工的发展到头,下面什么变化跟这里的都没什么大关系吧,这里的各位估计没人会学跑锅回去


You are kidding, right?

The status quo is a win-win for us - educated white collars in STEM jobs who work for big international corporations and benefit greatly from globalization (both in jobs and in investments). Given the growing nature of our sectors, more incoming Chinese immigrants generally won't compete our jobs away but will instead make us as a group stronger politically and economically. No change can make this better. Jealousy against your classmates who became super rich in China on the other hand, isn't rational. Fuck them up doesn't help us.

Any direct conflict between the Chinese government and the US government will breed xenophobia directed at Chinese immigrants here. It's only bad news.

Back to alfabeta's point, one incapable of voting for one's own interests doesn't deserve sympathy.

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Re: Trump in power

帖子Omega » 12/12/16 14:10

My comments above were true then, and they are true (and have become obvious) now. The failure to understand where one's true interests lie is mind boggling, especially for such an educated, presumably high iq group.
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Re: Trump in power

帖子迪斯马森 » 12/12/16 14:32

悲愤的googlist:谁能告诉我,为什么这条路上每个人都在开反道???

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Re: Trump in power

帖子Twingo » 12/12/16 15:23

迪斯马森 写了:悲愤的googlist:谁能告诉我,为什么这条路上每个人都在开反道???

GGL好象总是忽略作为communist的唯一代表中国总会被人拿出来敲打这个事情,这个思维上的对立是永远存在的,前面几十年美国在台上的更愿意解决总体的问题,而且大环境让这些人有台面的事情来解决,最近这十多年来全世界范围内能影响美国人生活的除了经济问题,别的没什么真正能一直说下去的所以最后到了Trump就把土共揪出来,这个环境变成这样GGL你也改变不了的,前面几十年跟中国维持的那种搅浆糊的状态恐怕已经彻底到头了。
所有族裔数一遍,中国人是最没凝聚力的,这个得感谢土共,GGL就不用在这里怨天尤人了,都已经这样了,大家攒够钱继续移民去加拿大吧 :twisted:
如果小i还在,估计又要把大家出来一个一个笑一遍 :!:
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Re: Trump in power

帖子迪斯马森 » 12/12/16 16:02

有不同意见是正常的。凝聚力只能在小范围存在,说中国人最没凝聚力的,那美国人一样没凝聚力,往下说密西根人也没有凝聚力,密西根里的一个县一个镇的人仍然还是没有凝聚力。
看看全世界,就数朝鲜人最有凝聚力,那是好事吗?

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Re: Trump in power

帖子alfabeta » 12/12/16 17:32

经济民粹主义、反移民、反全球自由贸易等等等等,背后都是美国劳动力素质下降还不愿意工作还以为自己deserve everything,而这背后的原因就是福利社会的incentive了。只有ggl的机器人共产主义社会能解决这些问题。
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Re: Trump in power

帖子Omega » 12/12/16 17:49

I wouldn't blame these people voting out of their own interest - or at least conned into thinking that's the case. I'm actually far more sympathetic. Automation + globalization have been coming too fast over the past decade for the blue collar workers to adjust.

What's far more agonizing and pathetic are those who cannot even vote out of their own interest, short or long term.

alfabeta 写了:经济民粹主义、反移民、反全球自由贸易等等等等,背后都是美国劳动力素质下降还不愿意工作还以为自己deserve everything,而这背后的原因就是福利社会的incentive了。只有ggl的机器人共产主义社会能解决这些问题。
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Re: Trump in power

帖子alfabeta » 12/12/16 18:09

Omega 写了:What's far more agonizing and pathetic are those who cannot even vote out of their own interest, short or long term.

老书记很穷,和农村红脖子一样,是最应该吃福利的,但是我们有我们的尊严,还是投票反对滥发福利。long term interest这个东西就是opinion了,要是我们老板借钱发奖金,我还高兴得很,反正垮了,我到另外的餐馆抓码也一样糊口,但你和你的家庭也许不能逃离这个国家。
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Re: Trump in power

帖子Omega » 12/12/16 18:15

你拿什么跟丢了工作孩子连公立大学都读不起的制造工人比?老书记就地打滚装穷的本事真是没得比。 /clap1

1. 你的家庭收入不在最上两个bars?
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2. 你没有401K?
3. 你家没有买房?
4. 你闺女不打算上大学?

如果你的回答都是no. 那你太牛逼了。当我啥都没说。

你反对的福利,小恩小惠食品券,让你辞了工去吃救济,估计你也不会去。真正影响国债的大福利两党皆有份,包括medicaid, medicare, social security,都去掉,世界上只剩下的国家,你大概还不愿意待。

你的理想国原始社会除了个别原始部落,根本不存在。你这品位不只是比我小众,只怕连rand paul都要望尘莫及。

If your only point is you have the right to vote whatever way you want, all my statements, valid or not, are irrelevant. You sure do.

alfabeta 写了:
Omega 写了:What's far more agonizing and pathetic are those who cannot even vote out of their own interest, short or long term.

老书记很穷,和农村红脖子一样,是最应该吃福利的,但是我们有我们的尊严,还是投票反对滥发福利。long term interest这个东西就是opinion了,要是我们老板借钱发奖金,我还高兴得很,反正垮了,我到另外的餐馆抓码也一样糊口,但你和你的家庭也许不能逃离这个国家。
Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature on optimism and die on euphoria

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Re: Trump in power

帖子Twingo » 12/12/16 19:17

GGL有每个州的household income和美国总体average/median的对比图不,贴出来看下那几个rust belt的到底悲惨到什么程度
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